Why Do Motorcycle Riders Brag About "Freedom"?
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Everyone knows that "Motorcycle" is synonymous with "Freedom" ... but why? Motorbikes have the same dynamics as bicycles and go to the same places as cars - what's so free about that?


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Fair warning - this is a challenging read. Asking what makes freedom "free" is child's play compared to Pirsig's query: what makes good "good"? Fascinating!


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  • Mike M44
    Mike M44

    motorcycle riding is not for everyone.. some who love it but where never able to get over the fact that there is nothing between you and the pavement even at low speeds is not for them.. for most though, you have to work up to it.. slow rides and get familiarity.. not jumping on the interstate until your comfortable helps.

  • Mike M44
    Mike M44

    motorcycle riding is a ZEN like experience.. concentrating on the moment forget your troubles...because doing 70 on the highway with nothing but your ass between you and the pavement will do that,.,

  • I.M.A. Panther
    I.M.A. Panther

    Riding. Get on your bike and ride. No destination. No time limit. Just ride.

  • ItsJustMe
    ItsJustMe

    Accurate. :) Especially the freedom of the mind thing. Just did a ride with my hubby from Edmonton to Toronto and back. Every time we do a long trip like this, it's so meditative. It's nice just thinking about... nothing. (Except when it's 10c and downpouring on you North of Lake Superior, with the next place to stop 70km away and you want to die)

  • Morkanz
    Morkanz

    i had more fun on a 125cc taking my license then on my 500cc, feeling the wind, pushing the bike to its limit without going crazy speeds, so light like a kids bike, freedom of movement

  • Ford
    Ford

    Quality over quantity. Great work, F9!

  • thejking
    thejking

    This is beautiful.

  • stackfl0w
    stackfl0w

    >freedom isn't something you find at the end of a rainbow The elites don't want you to know you're free to do whatever you want at the end of the rainbow. You can just kidnap leprechauns if you want. I have 48 leprechauns at home.

  • G Scale Model Railway People
    G Scale Model Railway People

    One of the BEST ever short to point video's on FIbill. Here saith the 70 year that has been going the Lambo speed since late 1965 then warp speed in early 69-70's with one of the first CB750 Honda 4 K1's from Sydney Dealer across the road from Central Station after a 12 hour train ride. Took longer to get home as every half hour I would find a shady tree park up and just look at it and wait for my mind and heart to slow down Tony

  • TheWindigomonster
    TheWindigomonster

    Love that you sell that book on your own store.

  • It Was Right There In Front Of You
    It Was Right There In Front Of You

    Damn, this hit hard..

  • ellipsis000
    ellipsis000

    listen: i'm on a binge here with every new video a source of another sparkling pearl...and thinking i have a full necklace, here comes Ryan with Jane Austen:))))) ps: bikers and jane go well together; just like Clancy and Jane - a pair dreamt up by bill bailey)g

  • smileandlaughs
    smileandlaughs

    But what about the glass on a motorcycle helmet?

  • Baleur
    Baleur

    He nailed it

  • andrestepe
    andrestepe

    No frame... Except for the frame given by the helmet (if you wear one)

  • Steven Paul
    Steven Paul

    No seat belt

  • Oleg Morozov
    Oleg Morozov

    Smart. Ryan wants more subscribes for his motorcycling channel? He starts making videos that promote motorcycling to gen pop.

  • The Roadtrip Raven
    The Roadtrip Raven

    I feel most like my true self when I'm on my bike. The calming solitude, the never-ending changing landscape, just wandering. Like our ancient ancestors. Wandering, not staying in one place. It feels natural.

  • Shell Back Beau
    Shell Back Beau

    OK, so cb650r for ¥979,000 or rebel 1100 for ¥1,100,000? I'm 5'11, 235lb, live in metro Japan(so 30km~60km speed limits unless you get on a toll road, then you're up to maybe 120km), lane filtering at stoplights are legal so bike width is a factor, most rides will be around 30 minutes, maybe up to an hour, and then occasionally up to 2 hours, and maybe once a quarter for all day rides. My previous bike was a ktm Duke 390. I've trained on a Harley 650, I've test ridden a Diavel(loved it, can't afford it) and I've ridden another small cruiser and naked. I'm leaning towards the rebel 1100. I'm planning on it I can, to test ride each. What's your opinion?

  • NOEL BRAND
    NOEL BRAND

    could not have said it any better.

  • Scooter Tramp
    Scooter Tramp

    My collection of motorcycle truisms: I have never seen a motorcycle parked at a shrink's office. Saddlebags can never hold everything you want, but they CAN hold everything you need. Four wheels move the body……Two wheels moves your soul. You’ll get farther down the road if you learn to use more than two fingers on the front brake. It takes more love to share the saddle than it takes to share the bed. The only good view of a thunderstorm is in your rear-view mirror. Never be afraid to slow down. Only bikers understand why dogs love to stick their heads out car windows. Never ask a biker for directions if you’re in a hurry to get there. Don’t ride so late into the night that you sleep through the sunrise. Mountain Dew, beef jerky, and peanut M&M’s are as important as gasoline. Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight. Riding faster than everyone else only guarantees that you’ll ride alone. Never hesitate to ride past the last streetlight at the edge of town. Never mistake horsepower for staying power. A good rider has balance, judgment, and good timing. So does a good lover. Never do less than forty miles before breakfast. Your bike is your best friend. It takes you where you want to go, it understands your problems, it keeps you company, and best of all it doesn't bitch or talk back. If you do not ride in the rain, you do not ride. A bike on the road is worth two in the shop. Young riders pick a destination and go…Old riders pick a direction and live. A good wrench will let you watch without charging you for it. Sometimes the fastest way to get there is to stop for the night. Always back your scoot into the curb - sit where you can see it. Work to ride - Ride to work. Whatever it is its better in the wind. Two-lane blacktop isn’t a highway, it’s an attitude. When you look down the road, it seems to never end - but you better believe it does. Winter is nature’s way of telling you to fix and polish. A motorcycle can’t sing on the streets of a city. When racing, second place is just the first loser. Motorcycle boots are not comfortable for walking. They are made that way to encourage proper maintenance. People are like motorcycles: Each is customized a bit differently. If the bike isn’t braking properly, you don’t start by rebuilding the engine. Remember to pay as much attention to your partner as you do your carburetor. Sometimes the best communication happens when you’re on separate bikes. Well-trained reflexes are faster than luck. Good coffee should be indistinguishable from 50 weight motor oil. The best alarm clock is sunshine on chrome. Learn to do counterintuitive things that may someday save your butt. The twisties, not the super slabs, separate the bikers from the wanna-bees. When you’re riding lead - don’t spit. If you really want to know what’s going on, watch what’s happening at least 5 cars ahead. Don’t make a reputation that you’ll have to live down or run away from later. A friend is someone who will get out of bed at 2 a.m. to drive his pick-up to the middle of nowhere to get you when you’re broken down. Catching a June bug in the chest (or a yellow jacket in your goggles or a honeybee down your shirt) at 70 miles an hour can double your vocabulary. There’s something really ugly and obscene about a NEW bike on a trailer. Practice wrenching on your own bike. Owning two bikes is useful because at least one can be raided for parts at any given time. You’ll know she loves you if she offers to let you ride her bike. Don’t & she’ll love you even more. Don’t argue with an 18 - wheeler. Never be ashamed to unlearn an old habit. Maintenance is as much of an art as it is a science. If you think those unexplained water droplets on your face are happening because you are riding in a sun shower under a cloudless sky, look ahead because you just might be following a cattle liner....... A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of gasoline. If the countryside seems boring, get off your bike, and go sit in the ditch long enough to appreciate what was here long before the asphalt was..... The Interstate is great for getting you to your destination, but only a deserted two lane blacktop highway will get you to the time, space and place where you really want to be. If you ride like there’s no tomorrow, it's quite possible there won’t be. It will be a sad day when kick starting becomes a lost art........ Gray-haired bikers don’t get that way from pure luck. Never ride faster than your Guardian Angel can fly. Riding is the game you choose and you do it knowing what can happen, no crying, no regrets. The winner isn't the one with the fastest machine, just the one that refuses to lose. Unlike today's cookie cutter machines, the old bikes, the Brits, the Hogs, the Beemers, the Dukes, had a soul. Each and every one was just a little bit different. They shook so bad your mirrors were useless, the engines rattled and clanked, transmissions clunked, and the chain sang it's very own song. Suspensions pogoed, tank slappers were common, tires lost grip if it looked like it was going to rain, and pipes were loud. But one day on those old beasts was worth a year of sitting behind a windshield. If you remember this; Open the petcock, Tickle the carbs, Close the choke, Kick it through once or twice, Open the choke to half way, Bring it up on compression, Hit the switch, Lean over kiss the gas tank and say “you're turned on baby”, Invoke a small prayer, Open the throttle one quarter to one half, and Give it your best kick and Hope you get lucky, then you probably have a few years and more than a few miles on you and remember those magnificent machines. So now when your new machine starts to give you grief remember those old days of iron men and iron machines...........and quit your bitchin.

  • robert boykin
    robert boykin

    They are easer to drive than a car.

  • Muhidin Kadric
    Muhidin Kadric

    No frame on two legs either.

  • Arthur Foyt
    Arthur Foyt

    Best change on my bike was bar-end mirrors. NOW there is nothing obctructing my field of sight when I ride. Basically it looks and feels like you are just skimming down the road yourself with no vehicle. Yea, no frame. I like that.

  • batuksri
    batuksri

    Cruiser riders favourite George Michael track?

  • Fernando Hernandez
    Fernando Hernandez

    Funnily enough, the same principles apply to me riding my bicycle. Sure, the distances don't get as long but I live in a big city with nice countryside surrounding it. I don't need to go far all that often to feel free.

  • DoctorDoom
    DoctorDoom

    For me freedom while riding a bike is being able to take in the surroundings better. Just cruise along look at the road, appreciate the views, speed up when I want and just basically have a nice mellow ride. A car feels closed. The feeling of taking a corner even on a cruiser is just sublime. Leaning into corners in twisty roads is exhilarating. Frequently changing gears in a bike is a joy but a pain in the car. Sure a car is more comfortable especially during rains and more safe than bikes in accidents and you can sit in air conditioning and a lot more things the bike can't do but I could not care less about all those things. This carefree attitude of mine just comes alive on a bike and that for me is freedom, a few moments without care.

  • Stir It Up
    Stir It Up

    Slipping through stopped traffic while the caged lemmings sweat their seats and gawk at their screens makes me feel like I own the planet.

  • Lior Zisman
    Lior Zisman

    This is the best video on FIbill. Hands down.

  • Allen Watkins
    Allen Watkins

    Once you get done paying for them.

  • YC!
    YC!

    How about a convertible!

  • MICHAEL COCHECI
    MICHAEL COCHECI

    You, mate , are a Fucking Genious ! Honestly ! Regards, Michael C

  • APTV Fishing
    APTV Fishing

    This should be a commercial! The video was amazing

  • Ian Leithhead
    Ian Leithhead

    Inspired by Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance I flew across the world to USA and rode from LA to San Diego via Baton Rouge.

  • Mark Nesterenko
    Mark Nesterenko

    That's exactly why I got a new phone without bezels.

  • Ben Anderson
    Ben Anderson

    I've read the book twice, but I'm gonna dig it out and read it again now

  • AllboroLCD
    AllboroLCD

    I suppose any form of personal vehicle is a bastion of "freedom" . Check with the rules and bylaws of any american MC, you quickly learn they are all about anything BUT freedom. FUnny how that goes huh?

  • Russell McKinley
    Russell McKinley

    Yo, more Prisig content Ryan! One of the most influential books I've ever read.

  • Alpharius
    Alpharius

    Aesop Rock's song "Cycles to Gehenna" deals with this exact subject - with the same level of art.

  • ColoradoMonty
    ColoradoMonty

    I would say no cage rather than no frame. I would also say that the discussion of “quality” in that book also applies. Good video.

  • Alexander Guest Historical
    Alexander Guest Historical

    Still none the wiser, despite all the self pompous pontificating and psychobabble. Or is that because of.....

  • seeingeyegod
    seeingeyegod

    I dunno, my helmet has a frame

  • Thomas Knapp
    Thomas Knapp

    My back and body are beat,my sportbike the hour or so I ride i feel free of that,focus on the road!my motto"a hundred(mph)a day keeps the covid away!!

  • Michael Kemp
    Michael Kemp

    Fweedum!

  • 2Random
    2Random

    Mr. Canada, why done you come on down the road to Sturgis and say that?

  • Yolo F. Swaggins
    Yolo F. Swaggins

    I get zen for seconds at a time

  • Todd's professional window cleaning
    Todd's professional window cleaning

    Nice leather jacket,where can we buy one,thanks in advance!!

  • TomTom
    TomTom

    Love the leather jacket!

  • Ashley Smith
    Ashley Smith

    Yet 99.9999% of American bikers will never experience total freedom on their bikes. You gotta have a special something, that all or nothing, stubborn, red-blooded American, rebel way about you, the thing that makes you instinctively not have a care in the world about anything but the ride, and goddamn anything or anyone trying to stop you from riding. You gotta have that to know what I am talking about. You gotta be someone who doesn't agree with both the left and the right side of politics. You are someone who is usually routing for the bandit when you see a high speed pursuit video. You're waiting on the wayside, an adder nipping at the heel, maybe waiting for society to catch up with the enlightenment that you possess. Declared an outlaw by King George for being a free thinker.

  • Kevin
    Kevin

    As someone living in SEA, where the concept of public transport are replaced by motorcycle (except Singapore and brunei) and soo much small road and gang. Having a motorcycle is blessing.

  • Slayer Mack
    Slayer Mack

    I haven't had a car or truck in almost 8 years. Not because I can't get one, but because I chose not to. Sure, some things I do are more difficult, take more planning or can be very inconvenient, but the best times far out-number the difficult times. And no, I don't live in an area that is biker friendly in either climate or number of bikes on the road. We get more inches of rain per year than most places on Earth, and the number or bikes vs cars is less than 2%. But I do it because I've been on bikes most of my long life and this is the life I've chosen. I did the dual ownership of bikes and cages for many years, but then I decided to just sell the trucks and go pure bike. Some of my best friends didn't understand why I would do that, but have come to accept that in the worst weather, if we are supposed to meet somewhere, I'll get there eventually,...soaking wet...but I'll get there. Is that freedom for me? I guess if that's the word you want to use, then so be it. I call it life.

  • John Galt
    John Galt

    No Frame.. very catchy. But we also see the world through glass while riding albeit real world.

  • Waclaw Kobus
    Waclaw Kobus

    Theres nothing free in having to spend half an hour to jump into a leather overall and carrying a heavy helmet wherever you go

  • phoenix auto detailing Scotland
    phoenix auto detailing Scotland

    Just before 2:40. And I shout. I have that book, I'm 20 pages in and that line still jumps out. Go buy that book. Oh and like this chanel it great. I did not write that book. Lol.

  • Aqua Marin
    Aqua Marin

    another philodophical Question is : What a great Leather Jacket he ewears amd where can I get it ? ....smile

  • FreZzaaa
    FreZzaaa

    I love overtaking old fks in their Porsche but feeling free is nothing crossing my mind while being tucked in my onepiece-leather unable to walk properly.

  • seffy333
    seffy333

    Without watching the video I would answer the title with: Because freedom is dangerous. A truly free society means that you have to be ok with someone else doing things you think are scary or unsafe.

  • JustAnExtra Account
    JustAnExtra Account

    Well I don't ride but I feel like it would be the same feeling I get when riding my eboard of just that one time I walked down train tracks with no real end goal, it just feels good, it feels like freedom

  • triplepump
    triplepump

    Hands down, best "motorcycle" vlog. The next gear thinking in this video needs to be done.

  • Urs Noetzelmann
    Urs Noetzelmann

    Bloody damn well right!

  • Ryan THomas
    Ryan THomas

    SO MISSED A OPPORTUNITY! i was expecting Morphius to jump then out of frame hop on a motorcycle and ride between the buildings!

  • Muscle Bike
    Muscle Bike

    Ryan your sales potential is boundless. Promoting such benefits as freedom and positive mental health in a bike shop along with whatever else you had set up would get your machine stock flying out the front door quicker than it would arrive at the back. I wonder what master piece videos we have to look forward to in the future...

  • Nomad Trails
    Nomad Trails

    Literally every single video I think "This is the best content on FIbill". And, while I realize I happen to be wearing a motorcycle helmet in my picture and my only uploads are from driving my Yamaha Exciter 5spd manual minibike in Vietnam, I hardly even give a shit about motorcycling compared to skiing, climbing, and 10 other interests of mine. FortNine, you are an outlier among outliers on FIbill. You're in a class of your own.

  • Ray Garrett, Jr.
    Ray Garrett, Jr.

    This is the best video this channel has created so far. At least the best I've seen. Great job!!!!

  • Michael Dempster
    Michael Dempster

    Great vid Ryan. I've only recently started watching your output and it is the best! Informative and very entertaining. For all those who only read the beginning of the 1st Pirsig book "Zen...", the philosophy he came up with is called The Metaphysics Of Quality. Like all philosophy it isn't an easy read, but it's well worth spending some time with his take on human existence. To me, it makes sense. There is a sequel to his first book called "Lila: An Inquiry Into Morals," and he ties up some loose ends that were left in the "Zen" book. If you enjoyed Zen I highly recommend you read Lila as well.

  • dalesworld
    dalesworld

    He's like the Neil deGrasse Tyson of powersports.

  • Victor Quesada
    Victor Quesada

    In a world mediated by screens, a motorcycle (or electric bike) might be part of the solution www.amazon.com/Three-Pieces-Glass-Mediated-Screens/dp/1587434229

  • Higginsamerica
    Higginsamerica

    Turn the gps off, get lost and ride with nowhere to be.

  • Sanatan Dharma
    Sanatan Dharma

    Nice! I bought an old 400 super dream a few years a go on a whim! It was in someone's drive as a non runner! I bought it and got it working, took it to a garage and he checked it. I went to the mot station, he failed it, I fixed it , he failed it again! So I went to a different mot station, he passed it. I then rode it, and rode it. Sometimes it would not start using the electric starter, so I used the kick starter! I then won a California superbike competition and learned the art of counter steer around a race track. This was epic fun. I even lapped a Ducati! I found something inside me, it was a suppressed need for danger!aka freedom. I met new people, other riders nodded to me on the road, people would come and talk to me about the bike. A whole new world opened up! I got wet, cold, hot, smelled the air, and different scents. Bees sometimes got inside the helmet and the greasy roads kept me alert. I suppose I felt like a warrior, not knowing what was going to happen, not knowing if I would return! I felt alive!!! That is freedom to me.

  • MIchael Kevin Mirasol
    MIchael Kevin Mirasol

    More freedom from traffic More freedom from gas consumption More freedom from congested parking space More freedom for adventures

  • Fran Jurado
    Fran Jurado

    Seriously? I love motorcycling but pls don't say "freedom" i don't buy it Free to always wear protective gear: sweat like a pig in summer, freeze your ass off in winter and get your feet soaked in raining??. Free to be a slave servicing your machine: lube the chain, check brake fluid, keep your tire pressure. ?? Free to get a traffic ticket if you park over a sidewalk ... free to get another one if you filter lanes in a traffic light. ??

  • Siddakid
    Siddakid

    Everything exists on the freedom vs. security scale. I have the freedom to post this comment however in doing show I present myself to all the dangers of expressing my voice. Not that that risk is very high here mind you but it exists. Take away all the safety and you will be reimbursed with some sort of freedom. Bikes do that

  • calmistheway
    calmistheway

    You missed the whole point... "freedom" = The wife can't reach me even if she tried.

  • Johannes
    Johannes

    Why are your Videos the same quality as a 1 million dollar short Film???????

  • Martin Holck
    Martin Holck

    Eren Yaeger *enters his local mc dealership*

  • Gagan Judge
    Gagan Judge

    My man crush deepens...

  • Brian Moore
    Brian Moore

    Just to be one with a machine and understand your bike. Do 10 or 20 under the speed early on a Sunday morning feel the bike not in a hurry just go for a ride if that's freedom I guess I find Freedom

  • phantomfire 83
    phantomfire 83

    Why do Americans brag about their freedom when it's one of the most oppressed countries on the planet with some messed up laws. God forbid if you're caught drinking alcohol before you're 21 🤣🤣

  • 榊田海人
    榊田海人

    Geez I love this channel

  • Mandy Flame
    Mandy Flame

    And hence the attraction of open face helmets. Even less “frame” to look through.

    • DH K
      DH K

      Nahh...I don't want any kisses from mother nature.

    • Omar Salgado
      Omar Salgado

      Definitely better to get "connected" with the surroundings, but after knowing helmets and crash statistics, a full face helmet is the only option. There's always the chance to have the face shield open though.

  • Uday B
    Uday B

    I was in depression for 1 year and was taking therapy, it wasn't helping. My dad bought me a Royal Enfield Meteor 350, I rode around 1000 miles on it and trust me I never felt better in my life, what this guy says is absolutely true!!

  • David T
    David T

    "In the scene not just watching it anymore". Freaking beautiful. I am considering getting my first bike right now, and that line actually reminds me of how I felt learning how to drive my first manual car. It forces you to be part of the car and thus the road in a way that an automatic simply can't replicate. So much is dependent on you and your relationship with your machine. It makes me even more excited to get a bike. Love this channel. Keep it up.

  • Limitless 1
    Limitless 1

    I ride for the danger . The reality that my life is in my hands . The acceptance that I must let go and accept that I may crush ! for some reason ... I ride for that , to control the things that I can and to accept the things that I can not .

  • Monte Wolf
    Monte Wolf

    What is Freedom? Freedom is the Liberty to live you life as you see fit. Riding a Motorcycle give you the feeling like a bird inflight it gives you control over your destiny. There is no Motorcycles part outside a therapist office

  • mark Vaughan
    mark Vaughan

    Cage drivers and others will never get it….

  • mark Vaughan
    mark Vaughan

    The only time I am myself is when I’m in my helmet. No extraneous thought, just the next corner. Mindfulness, thy name is riding………..

  • glypnir
    glypnir

    I love Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. I also love walking. Much less of a frame than riding a motorcycle, and even more freedom. No seat, not need to hold the controls, no need to stay on the road, much less requirement to balance anything. Maybe this will help me get back to walking, my favorite exercise. It's also amusing that I'm getting an ad for a Lincoln Aviator with 30 way seats, heads up display, and heated steering wheel.

  • Jason Burtals
    Jason Burtals

    U can only claim freedom, if you own a Harley

  • Jim Bird
    Jim Bird

    Just freedom from road congestion and driving around looking for a parking space

  • Stephen Dubs
    Stephen Dubs

    It's it sad that I immediately recognized Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice without reading the label even before he misquoted the first line?

  • Alan Reed
    Alan Reed

    plato never meant for people to live in his cave, because they already do

  • Bruce Caldwell
    Bruce Caldwell

    The year is 1997. I'm riding my trusty KLR on a twisting mountain road, which I seem to have all to myself somewhere in Mexico. A light rain begins to fall. I can't quite explain what I felt other than to say I felt at peace with myself & the world.

  • Hazcat
    Hazcat

    You just gave some advertising company the next slogan 'Live Outside the Frame'.

  • Eric Bucher
    Eric Bucher

    I never once heard anyone speak philosophically about riding a motorcycle, they just do it.

  • Dan Robertson
    Dan Robertson

    In most of the world the freedom from being stuck behind someone else is the biggest freedom. The freedom to go your own pace punctuated by the thrill of overtaking.

  • David Farper
    David Farper

    Can someone recommend a wide foot peg for a bmw f800 2016???

  • Kerim Isam
    Kerim Isam

    I was hesitating to buy my first bike but after watching this video I'm definitely getting one. Kudus to you bro

  • I am Road
    I am Road

    Riders, especially fartley and crotch rocket riders want to be free to do what they want to do at everyone else's expense.

  • Juan Solo
    Juan Solo

    Motorcycles is kind of a selfish hobby, but it is selfish in a good way were that only thing that matters it’s you and the road. The closest relationship you have it’s with your bike while experiencing and feeling the world around you. I’ve been riding for 6 months and most of that time I spend it on a shit bike (Honda tool) and just riding around my hometown. But even though I’ve walk, drove and ride (with a bicycle 🚲) those streets for the almost 21 years, going on a motorcycle made everything feel new and exiting. Motorcycling it’s a beautiful hobby that can’t be explained by words, you whether love it or hate it, and the only way to find out if you are missing out it’s to hop on a bike a go.

  • Seth P
    Seth P

    The frame isn't totally gone if you ride with a full face...